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Common Sense Rainbow is a site dedicated to debunking anti LGBT+ arguments and myths. We have cataloged many hateful arguments and myths and refuted them using logic and research. We also write articles on LGBT+ topics. This website is good for anyone who wants to educate themselves, anyone who wants to better fight bigots, people on the line on supporting the LGBT+ movement, or LGBT+ people who just want to read. Please share this site to maximize its impact.







Featured Stuff

What Is The Equality Act And Why We Need To Pass It

Why "Bathroom Bills" Are Dangerous And Don't Protect Anyone

Links to videos that debunk anti LGBT+ stuff

Why transgender people exist

Debunking rapid onset gender dysphoria

Why same sex mariage does not hurt children


Arguments debunked

Homosexuality is unnatural
Homosexuality encourages bad acts
Same sex marriage is not traditional
Homosexuality is disgusting
Homosexuality is a mental disorder
Being transgender/non binary is a new trend
Homosexuals don't reproduce
Genesis 1:27 says there are only 2 genders
Sex and gender are the same thing
Giving bathroom rights to transgender people puts cisgender people in danger
LGBT+ education sexualizes kids
LGBT+ education brainwashes kids
Transition hurts people
Transgender people don't exist
There are only 2 genders
Biological sex matters more than gender
Why can't I be a attack helicopter
Why can't I be 60
LGBT+ people just want attention
Same sex mariage redefine mariage
Kids are too young to know they are LGB+
There is a "gay agenda"
Same sex marriage harms children
Inclusive language erases woman
Rapid onset gender dysphoria
Using they/them is ungrammatical
Their are too many labels
Lots of people de-transition
Homosexuals don't exist
People choose their sexuality
Leviticus 18:22 bans homosexuality
Being LGBT+ is against god's plan
Genesis 19 says homosexuality is a sin
Deuteronomy 22:5 ban transgender people from wearing gender affirming clothes
Deuteronomy 23:1 bans gender affirming surgery
Transgender people perpetuate gender stereotyping
Biological sex is unchangeable
Sex is only your only your chromosomes
People are defined by their AGAB
Romans 1:27 says homosexuality is unnatural
1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 bans homosexuality
LGBT+ get "special treatment"
TERF is a slur
Woman/homosexuals become transgender to escape sexism/homophobia
Anti discrimination laws attack religious freedom
Transgender people choose to be trans
Same sex marriage attacks religious freedom
Asexuality does not exist / is not vaild
Kids are too young to know they are transgender
Marriage is a holy christian union
Bisexual people are confused
Transgender people have autogynephilia
Pronouns refer to biologly


Homosexuality is unnatural

1. Saying homosexuality is unnatural is simply not true. It has been documented in over 450 species of mammals worldwide.
2. Even if homosexuality was unnatural this does not tell anything about it being bad. Many things people consider to be unnatural are good. For example modern medicine, housing, and computers. Also many things people treat as natural are bad like getting killed by an animal, disease, and natural disasters.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals
https://books.google.com.ua/books?id=tmFJ1LhbVWcC
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Homosexuality encourages bad acts

1. People say that accepting/being homosexual will lead to the acceptance/doing of other stuff like zoophilia or pedophilia. This is a slippery slope argument just because people do one things does not mean people will start doing another thing.
2. Why can't this argument be used against heterosexuality, the only big difference is The gender you are attracted to.
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Same sex marriage is not traditional

1. This argument implies that the traditional definition of marriage (between a man and a woman) is inherently better. Just because something is old and has been done for a long time does not mean it's better. For example slavery is a old "tradition" done in many old civilizations but it's not good.
2. Homosexual relationships were a tradition in some parts of the world along with other things like polygamy ------
Homosexuality - Non Religious

Homosexuality is disgusting

1. Just be cause a person thinks something is disgusting does not mean it's bad. I think some foods are disgusting but that does not mean the foods are bad for you or that they should be wiped from the face of the earth.
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Homosexuality is a mental disorder

1. First of all the definition of a mental disorder states that it must cause harm to a person or impair their function. Homosexuality does not do this, homosexual people live Their life normally apart from who they are attracted to.
2. Also homosexuality is not in the current version of the DSM, it was removed in the DSM3-R.
3. Even if homosexuality was a mental disorder why should people deny them rights. It would be ableist.
4. Also if it was a mental disorder why would this matter? A mental disorder is just a label and being homosexual does not reduce people's ability to function.
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https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/mental+disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_DSM
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Being transgender/non binary is a new trend

1. Some people like to say that being transgender or non binary is just a recent trend. This is wrong and transgender and non binary people have been found throughout history.
2. While it is true more people identify as transgender/non binary now then before this because of the LGBT+ movement helping people find themselves. We have writen a article on why more people are LGBT+ see it here
3. you could call it a "trend" it's better then the trend of being stuck with gender dysphoria with nothing to do about it.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_history
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Transgender - Non Binary - Non Religious

Homosexuals don't reproduce

1. Some people say this as a negative but it might be a plus. More babies contributes to overpopulation. Also Same sex couples often adopt children and adoption is considered good. Also same sex parents adopting does not harm childred.
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Genesis 1:27 says there are only 2 genders

1. There are many ways this can be approached. First god makes everything on a spectrum. when god made day and night he also made the morning and evening. When god made the land and sea he also made beaches. So why can't god have made things in the middle.
2. Jumping off the last point intersex people exist. Showing god did make people in-between male and female they are even affirmed in Matthew 19:12.
3. Also this verse can be viewed as symbolism for the creation of humanity.
4. Also this verse refers to biological sex not gender identity which are both different things.
5. Also god did not list everything he created so other stuff exists but was just not listed.
6. Also this verse said "male and female" not "male or female" showing that male and female were not exclusive.
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http://www.bibleandhomosexuality.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about-transgender-people/
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Non Binary - Religious

Sex and gender are the same thing

1. Biological sex is the physical characteristics someone has while gender is the social rules and things attributed to gender identity. There is nothing in a boy's DNA that makes them like blue or nothing in a girl's DNA that makes them like pink. The colors attributed to gender were even reversed at one point.
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https://www.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/difference-between-sex-and-gender/
https://www.healthline.com/health/sex-vs-gender/
https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/10/23/gender-toys-capitalism/
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Transgender - Non Religious

Giving bathroom rights to transgender people puts cisgender people in danger

We have written a longer article on this. Click here for more information on this topic.

1. Giving transgender people bathroom rights dose not endanger cisgender people. There is no Link between giving these rights and increased violence.
2. While there are one off cases of transgender people attacking people in bathrooms you can't Use the actions of individuals to attack a whole group.
3. Also discriminatory laws probably won't be too helpful. There is nothing stopping people from just violating these rules because people can still walk into bathrooms a law won't physically stop them from using the other bathroom.
4. This is more a issue for transgender people because going into the wrong bathroom makes them more likely to have hate crimes and violence perpetrated against them.
5. Transgender people going into the wrong bathroom would also be very bad for mental health.
6. These discriminatory laws are unenforceable. Would people need to pull down there pants or use an ID just to use the bathroom?
7. Giving bathroom rights to transgender people benefits them because it does not hurt cisgender people so there is a net gain for bathroom rights. This argument is just a mask for transphobic people to attack the existence of transgender people.
8. Saying transgender people can't use the right restroom because they might attack people is like saying homosexual people can't use the right restroom because they might attack people.
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https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-018-0335-z
https://transequality.org/what-experts-say
https://www.4vawa.org/ntf-action-alerts-and-news/2018/4/12/national-consensus-statement-of-anti-sexual-assault-and-domestic-violenc e-organizations-in-support-of-full-and-equal-access-for-the-transgender-community
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Transgender - Non Religious

LGBT+ education sexualizes kids

1. LGBT+ education does not need to talk about the ins and outs of sex. It manly tells kids LGBT+ people exist and that's ok. You don't need to talk about sex to tell kids that 2 people of the same gender can be in a relationship.
2. Why can't this argument be used against straight relationships. People teach kids about these relationships from a young age directly or indirectly without talking about sex.
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General - Non Religious

LGBT+ education brainwashes kids

1. Some people say that LGBT+ education brainwashes kids into becoming LGBT+. LGBT+ education manly tells kids that LGBT+ people exist and that's ok. It's not forcing kids to become LGBT+. You can't choose to be gay or trans (for trans you choice to transition but the cause for the transition was not a choice).
2. There is no motivation for schools to do this.
3. This will lead to a increase of people who are out but this is because the education helps kids find who they are. The kids were LGBT+ in the first place they just found who they were.
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General - Non Religious

Transition hurts people

1. Transitioning has been found to improve kids mental health. Also less than 1% of people regret transitioning. A study found that thoughts about suicide drop from 67% to 3% after transitioning.
2. While a study does find transition leads to higher suicide rates. Another study found people not transitioning leads to higher rates too. Also post transition suicide does not necessarily stem from the transition itself. It could very well stem from transphobia because transitioning often gets hate sent a persons way.The study about higher suicide rates was also addressed see the sources for info.
3. The best solution to this problem would be to fight transphobia. Transphobia has been proven to increase suicide rates. This would allow people to transition without as many problems.
4. While study results are for transition being good I have seen personally that transition helps people. This is not real science but it's worth knowing.
5. People generally know what's best for them. Getting surgeries, HRT, paperwork updates, and social transition takes a lot of time and thought. So most people who want to transition have thought it out and have a lot of time to think it out so they know that they really want it.
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https://www.transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/transgender-youth-mental-health-gender-affirming-care-laws
https://journals.lww.com/prsgo/fulltext/2021/03000/regret_after_gender_affirmation_surgery__a.22.aspx
https://www.jahonline.org/article/S1054-139X(20)30027-6/fulltext
https://www.heritage.org/gender/commentary/sex-reassignment-doesnt-work-here-the-evidence
https://www.mentalhealthcommission.ca/wp-content/uploads/drupal/2019-05/Transgender%20people%20and %20suicide%20fact%20sheet.pdf
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00918369.2011.534038
https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2021/
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Transgender - Non Religious

Transgender people don't exist

1. Gender is not determined by biological sex. It does not take it to account that gender is a social construct therefore more nebulous than sex and it's not useful in day to day life. It's also does not determine how people see you in public. That leaves us with performativity and gender identity. Both are better theories.
2. If someone identifies as a gender, presents as a gender, and everyone knows them as that gender then they might as well be that gender. This is useful compaired to using biological sex. Transgender people are not the gender of their biological sex in any useful way.
3. Gender identity definitely exists. The medical community is in support of this. Many Studies also affirm this. Some studies have even connected gender identity to brain structure.
4. Transgender people are widely affirmed by the medical community and studies.
5. We change so many things about ourselves, many parts of our bodies and identities are dynamic so why does gender have to be different?
6. Some TERFs say transgender people don't exist because gender identity is unimportant or biological sex is more important this is wrong.
7. Also all useful biological markers of sex can be changed and chromosomes can be inconsistent and don't do anything at all on the outside.
8. Some would argue that all of this does not matter if transgender are happier after transition. This argument is especially convincing to utilitarians.
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https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/childrens-health/in-depth/children-and-genderidentity/art-20266811
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1521690X07000334
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6677266/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRQHZcU9ZqU
https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/5/2034/2660626
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10508-016-0768-5
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/?ignored=irrelevant
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Transgender - Non Religious

There are only 2 genders

1. People have gender identities that are non binary and people preform in a non binary way. Gender is not determined by biological sex so the only way forward is accepting non binary people.
2. Gender is a social construct making it much more nebulous than sex.
3. Gender was created as a compliment to sex. Intersex people exist, this means there are sexes between male and female. This means a gender must compliment these people in between. Transgender people exist so people not born intersex are able be these non binary genders. ------
Non Binary - Non Religious

Biological sex matters more than gender

1. A lot of TERFs say biological sex is more important than gender and a lot of their arguments hinge on this. This is wrong. Biological sex is almost never used in day to day life and does not determine how people treat you. 2. While biological sex might be important in a relationship this is a single case and Still does not make biological sex more important than gender in day to day life.
3. Some TERFs say that gender being a social construct makes it unimportant. This is wrong many social constructs are important for example money is a social construct and people don't go around burning it.
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Transgender - Non Religious

Why can't I be a attack helicopter

1. This one is just silly, anyone seriously using this is a clown. A helicopter is a non human object. A gender is something completely different. You can change your gender but you can't become a non human object.
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Transgender - Non Religious

Why can't I be 60

1. This one is like the attack helicopter one but a bit more sensible though it's still wrong. Being 60 is chronological and can't be changed. Gender is not chronologic but is what your gender identity is. Transgender people can't change what they were assigned as at birth just like how people can't change their chronological age.
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Transgender - Non Religious

LGBT+ people just want attention

1. Being LGBT+ has a very personal element. By coming out or talking about someone is just sharing information about themselves. Most people are not screaming about it.
2. LGBT+ people do want better representation and more rights but they are not asking for too much. Most humans want human rights and just because there is representation in the media does not mean the media is screaming about it every second.
3. Most people would not scream about being LGBT+ just for the attention. This would make them much more open to hate.
4. There is just something uncomfortable about being in the closet for a lot of LGBT+ people and for transgender people they have to come out to make a transition.
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General - Non Religious

Same sex mariage redefine mariage

1. It does redefine marriage but this it not inherently bad. A opposite sex marriage won't be effected by a same sex marriage existing. The people being effected are the people in the same sex marriage who are definitely more happy.
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General - Non Religious

Kids are too young to know they are LGB+

1. Kids can know their sexuality from a young age. This can be in the form of childhood crushes which can manifest at a young age or sexual attraction (or lack of) during puberty.
2. A person knows themselves the best and some experience likely caused a kid find who they are. By coming out this likely shows they have put some thought into their orientation.
3. No-one tells kids that they are too young to be straight.
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https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/sexual-orientation.html
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Homosexuality - General - Non Religious

There is a "gay agenda"

1. The "gay agenda" a derogatory word used to describe the LGBT+ rights movement. It says people are pushing for LGBT+ rights. This is true. Of course humans what human rights. Check the rest of this website for why LGBT+ people deserve rights. "Gay agenda" is just a loaded/snarl word used to attack people who are fighting LGBT+ rights without coming up with real arguments.
2. We should also say there is no "rainbow illuminati" controlling the world. If someone thinks this then they are too far down the rabbit hole to be saved.
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General - Non Religious

Same sex marriage harms children

1. There is no evidence that says same sex marriage harms children. Some studies even find it's beneficial for kids.
2. Some people say that same sex marriage is harmful because of the disconnect between the child and parent but if this is true then why can't this argument be used against opposite sex families that adopt children. Adopting children is generally considered good so aren't same sex parents doing A service to this world?
3. A real problem is that kids of same sex parents might be attacked because of their parents being gay. The solution to this is to fight homophobia.
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https://sites.psu.edu/siowfa15/2015/10/19/effect-of-children-with-same-sex-marriage-parents/
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/03/gay-marriage-doesn-t-harm-children-but-the-facts-don-t-seem-to-matter.html
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Inclusive language erases woman

1. Inclusive language does not erase woman. For example saying pregnant person does still includes woman but it also includes non binary people and transgender men. More inclusion is better so we should use inclusive language.
2. Most people are not advocating for the destruction of gendered speech and just for more inclusive language when addressing large amounts of people. For example it's still ok to use gendered language in a small group of cis people or with a single person.
3. Transgender and non binary people need more representation. They are more oppressed than the average woman (we are not saying woman are not oppressed) and more representation would defiantly be helpful.
4. We are not advocating for the destruction of free speech. We just think inclusive language is better than gendered language and that it should be used more.
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Transgender - Non Religious

Rapid onset gender dysphoria

1. Rapid onset gender dysphoria (ROGD) is a term used by transphobic people to attack transgender kids today. It looks at being transgender as a social contagion spread by social media and though friend groups. A study on ROGD was published so let's look at it. First the study only questions parents and not kids. This could lead to bias.
2. A problem with only questioning parents is that a parent may see their kid's dysphoria as rapid from the outside because the kid was in the closet.
3. Also the study gets it data from a survey posted on transphobic websites like transgender trend. Of course if you ask for data from transphobic people the data is going to be transphobic.
4. The survey was posted on a pro transgender site though this likely did not change the numbers that much. See sources for more info.
5. This study has been criticized by many organizations and is widely rejected. A statement from a ton of medical organizations discredits the term and calls for its removal from the medical world.
6. The study talks about how social media could cause kids to be transgender. It's likely the other way around when a kids finds out they could be transgender they will likely go online to learn more about it and to feel more excepted.
7. A better explanation for the higher amount of transgender kids is the increase of representation in the media and the normalization of being transgender (we still have a long way to go on normalization).
8. The study only accepts results if they though their kids dysphoria onset rapidly. The study has no control group.
9. I would recommend reading some of the formal responses as it's hard to sum up all the things wrong with ROGD and the study on it in the quick summaries we give.
10. Some claim the criticisms of the study are censorship. Of course criticizing bad science is different from censorship. The site hosting the study never took the study down.
11. While A updated study was released it did not fix that much. It manly put enfaces on how the data came from parents.
12. A survey question asked if the parents thought that transgender people should get equal rights are others. Most of the parents said yes. The thing is these parents did not think their kids were transgender. The parents would have thought transgender ment real transgender adults not their kids. Also equal rights may not have been interpreted as the right for kids transition.
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https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0202330
https://www.caaps.co/rogd-statement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iGmAMPO3CA
https://www.florenceashley.com/uploads/1/2/4/4/124439164/ashley_a_critical_commentary_on_rapid-onset_gender_dysphoria.pdf
https://www.wpath.org/media/cms/Documents/Public%20Policies/2018/9_Sept/WPATH%20Position%20on%20Rapid-Onset%20Gender%20Dysphoria_9-4-2018.pdf
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Transgender - Non Religious

Using they/them is ungrammatical

1. They/them has been used in a singular way for hundreds of years.
2. Basically all dictionaries regard they/them as both plural and singular.
3. Words can have more than one definition.
4. People use they/them in everyday life to refer to people whose gender is unknown.
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https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/singular-nonbinary-they
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/they
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Non Binary - Non Religious

Their are too many labels

1. Gender and sexuality are on a spectrum so lots of labels are required to label parts of the spectrum.
2. Micro-labels can help people find out about themselves better.
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General - Non Religious

Lots of people de-transition

1. The regret after transitioning is very low. For gender affirming surgeries the regret rate is about 1%.
2. Many regrets after transitioning will come from transphobia. The best solution is to fight transphobia.
3. See this section for more information.
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https://journals.lww.com/prsgo/fulltext/2021/03000/regret_after_gender_affirmation_surgery__a.22.aspx
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Transgender - Non Religious

Homosexuals don't exist

1. This is simple wrong. A vast amount of research has shown the existence of homosexual people.
2. Some people say homosexuals have a repressed attraction to the opposite sex this is also wrong and research backs this up.
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https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-the-kinsey-scale-5199426
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

People choose their sexuality

1. This is wrong. Homosexuality is determined by genes and is not a choice. A genome wide association study was run tens of thousands of people and a large number of genes were associated to homosexuality.
2. Twin studies have also been run showing genetic correlation.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7082777
https://geneticsexbehavior.info
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Homosexuality - Non Religious

Leviticus 18:22 bans homosexuality

1. As this passage is a mosaic law it does not apply to christians. See sources for more info.
2. If you accept this passage then you must accept similar passages like the one that bans the eating of shrimp (Leviticus 11:9-12) and a whole lot more.
3. Even if we do accept this passage it only outlaws gay sex not same sex relationships.
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http://godhatesshrimp.com/about.php
https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality
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Homosexuality - Religious

Being LGBT+ is against god's plan

1. People don't choose being LGBT+ people are born LGBT+ (sexuality - gender). If god did not like LGBT+ he would not have given anyone those traits.
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General - Religious

Genesis 19 says homosexuality is a sin

1. The chapter is not about homosexuality. It's about rape and failing to show hospitality. The passage Genesis 19:5 says "They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”" This is clearly about rape and not about consenting relationships.
2. The whole passage is meant to talk about showing hospitality to visitors.
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Homosexuality - Religious

Deuteronomy 22:5 ban transgender people from wearing gender affirming clothes

1. Masculine and feminine clothing has a loose definition. It varies from culture to culture and over time. Masculine and feminine clothing can be subjective too and views about it can vary from person to person.
2. This passage does not necessarily talk about biological sex it could be talking about gender identity too. After all biological sex does not determine gender. 3. Read the article in the source for information on this passage.
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https://www.genderspectrum.org/articles/faith-resources-clobber
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Transgender - Religious

Deuteronomy 23:1 bans gender affirming surgery

1. This passage is probably overridden if a surgery is necessary. Gender affirming surgery is often necessary and not getting it can be very harmful and lead to suicide. Gender dysphoria is no joke. Also conversion therapy does not work and can't be used as a treatment.
2. Isaiah 56:3-5 and Matthew 19:12 (also affirms intersex people) affirms eunuchs (people without dicks.)
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https://www.genderspectrum.org/articles/faith-resources-clobber
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Transgender - Religious

Transgender people perpetuate gender stereotyping

1. This argument can be used against cisgender people too and anyone who conforms to gender roles. The only people who are safe from this argument are gender non conforming and non binary people.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRQHZcU9ZqU
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Transgender - Non Religious

Biological sex is unchangeable

1. This is wrong many parts of biological sex are changeable from genitals (not perfect) to hormones.
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Transgender - Non Religious

Sex and gender is only your only your chromosomes

We have written a longer article on this. Click here for more information on this topic.

1. After people point out that many biological markers are changeable TERFs fall back to less changeable things. The thing is these things don't matter and by medically transitioning your removing their importance. They are also invisible to everyone and only relatively recently discovered. Gender existed before then.
2. Chromosomes can be inconsistent.
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https://youtu.be/zRQHZcU9ZqU
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Transgender - Non Religious

People are defined by their AGAB

1. TERFs often say biological sex is more important than gender, but even after people change all meaningful parts of their biological sex TERFs still don't accept that. Lily Alexandre pointed out that this shows that TERFs don't believe in biological sex but believe in AGAB (they don't say this of course). This is crazy, TERFs say that they are grounded in reality but AGAB is not reality it's in the past.
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https://youtu.be/zRQHZcU9ZqU
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Transgender - Non Religious

Romans 1:27 says homosexuality is unnatural

1. I'm not as confident writing about bible passages and this one is a bit more complex than the other ones. For information on this verse please read to sources in the description. I might try to write someone on this later. I will still copy some of the affirming interpretations below.

2. "Human sexuality researchers and others who have studied the nature of sexual orientation might reject Paul's belief that homosexuality is beyond the normal. Many religious liberals reject Paul's condemnation of homosexual behavior, particularly when Paul's support for the oppression of women, and his acceptance of slavery as a normal social practice in (Philemon 1:15 to 16) are considered. They might feel that this passage in 1 Romans should be rejected as immoral and outside the will of God, much as other biblical passages are immoral by today's ethical standards and should be ignored including those passages that regulated human slavery, required some hookers to be burned alive, advocated genocide, required victims of rape to marry their rapist, allowed the torture of prisoners, and required the execution of non-virgin brides."

3. "Paul didn't write it as a condemnation of homosexuality, but as a criticism of Greek behavior in temple worship. Greeks often incorporated sexual behavior in temple worship." - J. Nelson

4. "The complete passage describes how a group of Christians left the church, converted to Paganism, and engaged in orgiastic, presumably heterosexual sexual activities. This type of behavior was common among Pagan fertility religions in Rome during Paul's time. Paul writes that, later, God "gave them over" to something new: homosexual behavior. This implies that they had a heterosexual orientation and had engaged only in heterosexual sex throughout their lifetime. God influenced them in some way to engage in homosexual orgies. This was, for them, an unnatural, and thus sinful, activity. Paul criticized them because they were engaged in sexual activity which was unnatural for them. For a person with a heterosexual orientation, homosexual behavior is "shameful," "unnatural," "indecent," and a "perversion." The passage in Romans is not a condemnation of homosexual behavior. Rather, it disapproves of sexual behavior that is against a person's basic nature (i.e. homosexual behaviors by people whose orientation is heterosexual)." - Dr. Swiney

5. "Some question whether the word "perversion" in Verse 27, and "such things" in Verse 30 are related to only certain types of gay and lesbian behavior. e.g.: Homosexual orgies, or Group same-gender sexual practices in a religious setting. This was a common practice among Pagans at the time; e.g. in the temples dedicated to the Goddess Aphrodite. Casual homosexual activities outside of a committed, monogamous two person relationship, or Homosexual molestation between a man and a child. In Paul's day, the child victim was often a slave. These probably were the only forms of same-sex activity that Paul was familiar with. Paul may well have not been thinking of gays and lesbians in committed relationships when he wrote this passage. He never referred to such couples in his writings, and may well have never encountered any during his lifetime. He might simply have been condemning homosexual orgies and other sexual activities outside of a monogamous same-sex relationship."

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http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibc5.htm
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Homosexuality - Religious

1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:9-10 bans homosexuality

1. Many other bible passages are considered immoral today and are disregarded.
2. Many translations go with men who have sex with male prostitute or men who engage in adultery. These would not apply to loving and consenting same sex relationships.
3. As I'm not as confident writing about bible passages please check out some of the sources in the description for more information.
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http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/about.php
http://www.religioustolerance.org/imm_bibl.htm
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Homosexuality - Religious

LGBT+ get "special treatment"

1. No we don't we are asking for equality. There are many counties where being LGBT+ is illegal.
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General - Non Religious

TERF is a slur

1. TERF is used when a "feminist" is being trans exclusionary. It's used when someone actually someone fits the definition.
2. TERF does have a negative connotation but that is because being trans exclusionary is negative. If you want to know why check out the transgender page of arguments.
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Transgender - Non Religious

Woman/homosexuals become transgender to escape sexism/homophobia

1. Why would someone move from an oppressed group into an even more oppressed group. Being transgender is dangerous.
2. Transitioning takes a lot of effort and a lot of time. It is very challenging. People don't do it for comparatively small reasons.
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Transgender - Non Religious

Anti discrimination laws attack religious freedom

1. Anti discrimination protect people of color and no one is complaining about that. Protecting LGBT+ people is a logical next step as LGBT+ were born with their attributes too. See our sections and sexual orientation and gender identity for more info.
2. Discrimination against people is different from religious freedom. Discrimination is actually harmful while religious freedom is not.
3. Being LGBT+ is not a sin anyways (by christian standards) check out the religious arguments on this site for more information.
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General - Religious

Transgender people choose to be trans

1. Transgender kids can know their gender from a very young age.
2. Studies have found that the brains of transgender people more resemble the brains of people of the opposite gender. This suggests gender identity might have a basis in biology. There is definitely a psychological basis too we just need more research.
3. Rapid onset gender dysphoria has been debunked.
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https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article/85/5/2034/2660626
https://dx.doi.org/10.1007%2Fs10508-016-0768-5
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20032-transsexual-differences-caught-on-brain-scan/?ignored=irrelevant
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Transgender - Non Religious

Same sex marriage attacks religious freedom

1. A same sex marriage is a consenting relationship between 2 people and does not affect religious people at all.
2. For discrimination in general see this argument.
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Homosexuality - Religious

Asexuality does not exist / is not vaild

1. Research has shown asexuality is a valid orientation and asexuals don't experience sexual attraction.
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http://www.asexualexplorations.net/home/extantresearch.html
https://www.asexuality.org/?q=overview.html
https://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/kinsey-scale.php
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Other - Non Religious

Kids are too young to know they are transgender

1. Transgender kids can know their gender from a very young age before knowing what transgender means.
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https://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-children-and-youth-understanding-the-basics
https://www.chop.edu/news/health-tip/when-do-children-develop-their-gender-identity
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Transgender - Non Religious

Marriage is a holy christian union

1. Marriage is not A exclusively Christian thing marriage spans many cultures and was around before Christianity.
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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/if-not-gods-authority-who_b_8090588
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Homosexuality - Religious

Bisexual people are confused

1. Research shows bisexuality is a valid orientation.
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https://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/kinsey-scale.php
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Other - Non Religious

Transgender people have autogynephilia

1. The autogynephilia theory does not line up with what transgender people say. For this theory to be true most transgender people must be lying and with the transgender community having hundreds of thousands of members this is inconceivable. Claiming that all transgender people are lying also makes the theory unfalsifiable by making it impossible to get counter evidence which is very problematic.
2. Transition is a long, hard, and expensive process it seems very unlikely that anyone would go though it just because of autogynephilia.
3. We are not saying no one has autogynephilia there are certainly one off cases. The problem is autogynephilia has not been seen on a wide scale.
4. The medical community argees that autogynephilia is mostly fake. See the sources for more information on problems with autogynephilia and academic responses to it.
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http://juliaserano.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-real-autogynephilia-deniers.html
https://www.juliaserano.com/av/Serano-CaseAgainstAutogynephilia.pdf
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1080/00918369.2010.486241
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Transgender - Non Religious

Pronouns refer to biologly

1. Pronouns refer to gender. This is how they are used most often. When people use pronouns they generally go on looks. No one uses biology. If we define a word by how people use it pronouns refer to gender.
2. Gender is changeable so if pronouns refer to gender which they do you the most accurate thing is to respect them.
3. Using the right pronouns is easy and using the wrong ones is damaging.
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Transgender - Non Religious